Frankly, this sounds like the same cause and result we learned about at the beginning of the semester. The Somali pirates continue to hijack ships and the result is nothing stops this problem. The sad thing is these pirates are the result of an unstable country. So even if countries work together and eradicate the piracy problem, I think the Somalis will find another means of income, illegal or not. It also seems the more ocean the Somali pirates cover the more neighboring countries become involved like Maldives. By looking at the map, you can see the Somali pirates have gone very far away from the coast of Somali in order to detain ships. Even if countries band together to stop this problem, there is nowhere to put these pirates. The Somali pirates are at an advantage in this situation.
Somali pirates as covert operators? The possibilities are limitless, funded to hijack target vessels, seems like an enterprising way to make a living. This is survival mode for a people suppressed and taken advantage of for many years now. Their waters are overfished by other countries and polluted by illegal dumping of nuclear waste. The Somali land has no strong governing infrastructure, ravaged by extreme drought and robbed of its natural resources and left to fend for themselves. They have no normal means of making a living so improvise to survive, that works for them. The laws that govern pirates are antiquated and no country really wants to house, maintain, and absorb the cost of another countries population. To be a professional pirate for a Somali has everything to gain and very little to lose. The procedure is simple, hijack the ship takes to Somali safe water, off load the cargo and wait for the ransom, let the ship go or cut it up and sell it back to another country. That would be the Somali adaptation for survival minus the business suit.
I still can't understand how these skinny, malnourished men can be so powerful. Yes, I know they have weapons, but I think I could knock out one of those skinny twits. I bet we can carry bigger and better weapons than they do. From the pictures we've seen, I think some of their weapons are being held together by duct tape.
They go by no laws, why should WE? (i.e. those being kidnapped) So, we kill a few of the pirates in order to gain our ship back. Who's going to know? Somalia, like the Honey Badger, doesn't give a.....
I agree with Leanne, I don't understand why we have to obey the laws when obviously Somalia isn't obeying them. I think if we used force and demonstrated that pirating will not be tolerated then we would see a decline in the number of ships being pirated. Also I think that countries should not be so willing to pay the pirates for the ships back, because the pirates know they will not be challenged and will get what they want, money. I also don't feel they should be granted asylum in countries that chose to prosecute these criminals; you are rewarding them again for committing a crime. This issue needs to be addressed by all countries who use ships as a means of transporting their products before more countries start to follow in Somalia’s pirating example.
4. 400 hostages are still in Somalia’s grasp since last year? Something is terribly wrong with this picture. Though this is an extremely crazy event, it looks like the US is going to step in and bail out Iran, and possibly other countries along with them. America needs to stay out of this and let these other nations have their way with the Somali pirates; terrible things would happen to Somalia if Iran had their way with them, I could only speculate and imagine. It’s hard for me to imagine things like this (pirating) still going on in today’s society; it sounds so medieval. The Somali pirates better watch out because it won’t be long until Iran nukes them off the face of the earth lol.
The Somalian pirates are going to keep hijacking vessels until they have another way of making a living. The people of Somalia are dying of starvation and the only solution they see is to become a pirates. The government has abandoned and they are doing what they can to survive another issue that has arose with the somalian pirates is the fact that it is hard to prosecute them. So even if authorities do arrest them it is a hard task to actually prosecute the pirates since they are not facing any real legal consequences they have no reason to stop but they do have good reason to keep doing what they are doing. I think a good way to try to combat the somalian pirates is by educating them and showing them how to survive without having to being pirates.
I agree with some of the statements from wesleyan2012. That the United States should not be interfering with these countries affairs. The United States already has too many situations o deal with. I do not believe that the United States should help Iran. There is already too much tension between Iran and the United States. However, the statement below that says that Iran would do terrible things to the Somali pirates. I would say that this response is premature in that we as Americans should not wish any misfortune on anybody. Regardless of nationality or any other aspect.
I agree with Cody G and Wesleyan2012. We as a country can't even take care of our own people and cant find the sufficent funds to support ourselves, so how is it that we can find the funds to help other countries fight pirates? In order for something to work you have to have a solid foundation and we as America don't have that...This story is just like what we learned at the beginning of class...only i think that as the government starts to develop new tactics to try and stop the pirates the pirates are catching on and are evolving in how they go about capturing the ships that pass by.. so its a constant game of cat and mouse. As long as ships are passing and these countries don't have a stable government these pirates are going to continue to attack ships..
Know where the Maldives are? Check out a map only to discover how FAR outside of the normal hijacking zone this incident occurred in. I can’t believe they have been going this kind of distance compared to the past hijackings. No blaming the pirates here! Though outside their usual hijacking zone, it’s apparent they have gotten more and more desperate in attempt to survive their lifestyle. More cautious trade routes are slowly becoming hostile. The pirates might been trying to send a message – that they are willing to go any length to carry out their means of attack regardless of how far you try to avoid them. Which is great, a more prevalence in piracy will create jobs of defending ships, one I am more than willing to enlist for due to its high frequency compensation. Need a ship protected? Give me a call today!
The Somali Pirate problem is getting worse and the international community is looking inept, as always. Somalia is not a super power possessing irresistible military force. The crimes occurring could be resolved with just one destroyer, or better yet, the issues causing the situation could be addressed. To hear that Somalia Pirates are striking off the coasts of Sri Lanka and India boggles the mind. How can this be possible? If you look deeper, you can find the answers. I don’t believe the reason is indifference. The situation is tolerated because of the illegal profits provided for the rest of the world and the diversion piracy creates for watching eyes. The benefits outweigh the cost. Until the balance of the scales tip to the negative, the current situation will continue and the suffering Somali people will pay the ultimate price.
I don't see much of a difference then from when we first have learned about them at the beginning of the semester. All I see is the problem worse and there is not much we can do about it because nations are afraid to get involved. If we continue to be afraid it is just going to keep progressing and more ships well be getting captured. The more ships captured the more money everyone loses. Well except if your a Somali pirate. Unless we take drastic measures this problem wont go away. These pirates are not doing it for fun, this is their life style, their jobs. It is a way to put food on the table, clothes on their family and a roof over their heads. They are willing to do what it takes to take care of themselves. So we should be willing to do what it takes to protect whats ours.
I can’t say that I agree with what the Somalian Pirates do, but I can understand why they hijack vessels for resources to survive. These people basically live in a place where there are little to no resources, so their chances of survival are slim to none. One good resource that they did have was fishing, but due to the over fishing from neighboring countries, and illegal dumping of harsh chemicals fishing is almost nonexistent. On the other hand these pirates that are hijacking vessels and taking people hostage, even killing people should be prosecuted, and prosecuting them is hard because the fight over jurisdiction. In my opinion, when it comes to the waters and keeping the men and women safe who are on these vessels, jurisdiction should not matter.
This is going to sound terrible, but as an American, I think we need to protect our vessels and only our vessels. Put people along the edges of the boats with firearms and other sorts of protection. Obviously these pirates are desperate. They need to attack ships just as a means of survival. Why is it our responsibility to help them? (This is the part thats going to sound bad/controversial) To be honest, I could care a less if those pirates survive. If they try to attack one of our ships, we should fight back and blast them with lead bullets. I understand that they live in a tough place, a place where jobs are not plentiful, but again, I believe this is not my problem. Although I would love to help, they need to help themselves, and attacking ships is not a way which I think you should go about it. Put more men on our ships with loaded weapons. If there is a threat, use them, and keep our ship moving. The whole jurisdiction thing. Who gives a rats you know what if the attacks arent in our jurisdiction, if no one else is going to do anything about, we can! And if we do, I believe the number of attacks will go down! And that is all that matters!
Every news report on the Somali pirates is about them hijacking a ship and raiding it. Quite frankly no one should be surprised by this. The reason I say that is because the Somali Pirates raid these ships as a mean of survival. The economy the Somali Pirates come from is extremely poor. The reason they raid these ships is so they can invest it back into the economy and so they can provide for their family because the government will not help them. To JB Pardon I don’t agree with you in some areas. Even though it’s not our problem, no one should lose their life. Granted the way the Somalian Pirates are going about providing for themselves is unethical and not right, but I think if you were in their situation you would do what you had to so you could provide for your family.
I believe the Somalian pirates are going to keep hijacking vessels. They do the hijackings as a way to make money and keep from starving. I agree that the United States needs to stay out of the picture for this problem. If the United States did step in, the troops or resources would have to be used to capture the pirates, which puts more men in prisons, and that costs a lot of money. America is already in debt. Plus, I do not believe this would stop the pirates from trying to hijack ships. I feel there are already many things the United States already needs to handle.
The pirates are still at it what a surprise. This problem that we and other nations have when dealing with the priates is going to be something that i think will probably never go away, unless somalia hits the jack pot lottery and all the poor people are taken care of. there isnt much we can do but provide security for the boats that go near this area with equipment the pirates cannot compete with. if we and others do not do this, it will never end and the pirates will continue to make money for thier family by hijacking our boats and holding our people as hostages.
the Somalian pirates are still at it what a surprise.the problem that we and other nations have when dealing with the priates is going to be something that i think will probably never go away,i agree with Tjock07 ya and every new report on the Somali pirates is about them hijacking a ship and raiding it and also are going to keep think that countries should not be so willing to pay the pirates for the ships back, because the pirates know they will not be challenged and will get what they want, money. ya i do agree with some of wat peopler say about this even if There is already too much tension between Iran and the United States. that doesnt hijack vessels for resources and with all the people that are still held whis is about 400 hostages are still in Somalia’s grasp since last year? Something is terribly wrong with this picture.he Somali land has no strong governing infrastructure, ravaged by extreme drought and robbed of its natural resources and left to fend for themselves. They have no normal means of making a living so improvise to survive, that works for them. The laws that govern pirates are antiquated and no country really wants to house, maintain, and absorb the cost of another countries population. they need help..
Frankly, this sounds like the same cause and result we learned about at the beginning of the semester. The Somali pirates continue to hijack ships and the result is nothing stops this problem. The sad thing is these pirates are the result of an unstable country. So even if countries work together and eradicate the piracy problem, I think the Somalis will find another means of income, illegal or not. It also seems the more ocean the Somali pirates cover the more neighboring countries become involved like Maldives. By looking at the map, you can see the Somali pirates have gone very far away from the coast of Somali in order to detain ships. Even if countries band together to stop this problem, there is nowhere to put these pirates. The Somali pirates are at an advantage in this situation.
ReplyDeleteSomali pirates as covert operators? The possibilities are limitless, funded to hijack target vessels, seems like an enterprising way to make a living. This is survival mode for a people suppressed and taken advantage of for many years now. Their waters are overfished by other countries and polluted by illegal dumping of nuclear waste. The Somali land has no strong governing infrastructure, ravaged by extreme drought and robbed of its natural resources and left to fend for themselves. They have no normal means of making a living so improvise to survive, that works for them. The laws that govern pirates are antiquated and no country really wants to house, maintain, and absorb the cost of another countries population. To be a professional pirate for a Somali has everything to gain and very little to lose. The procedure is simple, hijack the ship takes to Somali safe water, off load the cargo and wait for the ransom, let the ship go or cut it up and sell it back to another country. That would be the Somali adaptation for survival minus the business suit.
ReplyDeleteI still can't understand how these skinny, malnourished men can be so powerful. Yes, I know they have weapons, but I think I could knock out one of those skinny twits. I bet we can carry bigger and better weapons than they do. From the pictures we've seen, I think some of their weapons are being held together by duct tape.
ReplyDeleteThey go by no laws, why should WE? (i.e. those being kidnapped) So, we kill a few of the pirates in order to gain our ship back. Who's going to know? Somalia, like the Honey Badger, doesn't give a.....
I agree with Leanne, I don't understand why we have to obey the laws when obviously Somalia isn't obeying them. I think if we used force and demonstrated that pirating will not be tolerated then we would see a decline in the number of ships being pirated. Also I think that countries should not be so willing to pay the pirates for the ships back, because the pirates know they will not be challenged and will get what they want, money. I also don't feel they should be granted asylum in countries that chose to prosecute these criminals; you are rewarding them again for committing a crime. This issue needs to be addressed by all countries who use ships as a means of transporting their products before more countries start to follow in Somalia’s pirating example.
Delete4. 400 hostages are still in Somalia’s grasp since last year? Something is terribly wrong with this picture. Though this is an extremely crazy event, it looks like the US is going to step in and bail out Iran, and possibly other countries along with them. America needs to stay out of this and let these other nations have their way with the Somali pirates; terrible things would happen to Somalia if Iran had their way with them, I could only speculate and imagine. It’s hard for me to imagine things like this (pirating) still going on in today’s society; it sounds so medieval. The Somali pirates better watch out because it won’t be long until Iran nukes them off the face of the earth lol.
ReplyDeleteThe Somalian pirates are going to keep hijacking vessels until they have another way of making a living. The people of Somalia are dying of starvation and the only solution they see is to become a pirates. The government has abandoned and they are doing what they can to survive another issue that has arose with the somalian pirates is the fact that it is hard to prosecute them. So even if authorities do arrest them it is a hard task to actually prosecute the pirates since they are not facing any real legal consequences they have no reason to stop but they do have good reason to keep doing what they are doing. I think a good way to try to combat the somalian pirates is by educating them and showing them how to survive without having to being pirates.
ReplyDeleteI agree with some of the statements from wesleyan2012. That the United States should not be interfering with these countries affairs. The United States already has too many situations o deal with. I do not believe that the United States should help Iran. There is already too much tension between Iran and the United States. However, the statement below that says that Iran would do terrible things to the Somali pirates. I would say that this response is premature in that we as Americans should not wish any misfortune on anybody. Regardless of nationality or any other aspect.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Cody G and Wesleyan2012. We as a country can't even take care of our own people and cant find the sufficent funds to support ourselves, so how is it that we can find the funds to help other countries fight pirates? In order for something to work you have to have a solid foundation and we as America don't have that...This story is just like what we learned at the beginning of class...only i think that as the government starts to develop new tactics to try and stop the pirates the pirates are catching on and are evolving in how they go about capturing the ships that pass by.. so its a constant game of cat and mouse. As long as ships are passing and these countries don't have a stable government these pirates are going to continue to attack ships..
ReplyDeleteKnow where the Maldives are? Check out a map only to discover how FAR outside of the normal hijacking zone this incident occurred in. I can’t believe they have been going this kind of distance compared to the past hijackings. No blaming the pirates here! Though outside their usual hijacking zone, it’s apparent they have gotten more and more desperate in attempt to survive their lifestyle. More cautious trade routes are slowly becoming hostile. The pirates might been trying to send a message – that they are willing to go any length to carry out their means of attack regardless of how far you try to avoid them. Which is great, a more prevalence in piracy will create jobs of defending ships, one I am more than willing to enlist for due to its high frequency compensation. Need a ship protected? Give me a call today!
ReplyDeleteThe Somali Pirate problem is getting worse and the international community is looking inept, as always. Somalia is not a super power possessing irresistible military force. The crimes occurring could be resolved with just one destroyer, or better yet, the issues causing the situation could be addressed. To hear that Somalia Pirates are striking off the coasts of Sri Lanka and India boggles the mind. How can this be possible? If you look deeper, you can find the answers. I don’t believe the reason is indifference. The situation is tolerated because of the illegal profits provided for the rest of the world and the diversion piracy creates for watching eyes. The benefits outweigh the cost. Until the balance of the scales tip to the negative, the current situation will continue and the suffering Somali people will pay the ultimate price.
ReplyDeleteI don't see much of a difference then from when we first have learned about them at the beginning of the semester. All I see is the problem worse and there is not much we can do about it because nations are afraid to get involved. If we continue to be afraid it is just going to keep progressing and more ships well be getting captured. The more ships captured the more money everyone loses. Well except if your a Somali pirate. Unless we take drastic measures this problem wont go away. These pirates are not doing it for fun, this is their life style, their jobs. It is a way to put food on the table, clothes on their family and a roof over their heads. They are willing to do what it takes to take care of themselves. So we should be willing to do what it takes to protect whats ours.
ReplyDeleteI can’t say that I agree with what the Somalian Pirates do, but I can understand why they hijack vessels for resources to survive. These people basically live in a place where there are little to no resources, so their chances of survival are slim to none. One good resource that they did have was fishing, but due to the over fishing from neighboring countries, and illegal dumping of harsh chemicals fishing is almost nonexistent. On the other hand these pirates that are hijacking vessels and taking people hostage, even killing people should be prosecuted, and prosecuting them is hard because the fight over jurisdiction. In my opinion, when it comes to the waters and keeping the men and women safe who are on these vessels, jurisdiction should not matter.
ReplyDeleteThis is going to sound terrible, but as an American, I think we need to protect our vessels and only our vessels. Put people along the edges of the boats with firearms and other sorts of protection. Obviously these pirates are desperate. They need to attack ships just as a means of survival. Why is it our responsibility to help them? (This is the part thats going to sound bad/controversial) To be honest, I could care a less if those pirates survive. If they try to attack one of our ships, we should fight back and blast them with lead bullets. I understand that they live in a tough place, a place where jobs are not plentiful, but again, I believe this is not my problem. Although I would love to help, they need to help themselves, and attacking ships is not a way which I think you should go about it. Put more men on our ships with loaded weapons. If there is a threat, use them, and keep our ship moving. The whole jurisdiction thing. Who gives a rats you know what if the attacks arent in our jurisdiction, if no one else is going to do anything about, we can! And if we do, I believe the number of attacks will go down! And that is all that matters!
ReplyDeleteEvery news report on the Somali pirates is about them hijacking a ship and raiding it. Quite frankly no one should be surprised by this. The reason I say that is because the Somali Pirates raid these ships as a mean of survival. The economy the Somali Pirates come from is extremely poor. The reason they raid these ships is so they can invest it back into the economy and so they can provide for their family because the government will not help them. To JB Pardon I don’t agree with you in some areas. Even though it’s not our problem, no one should lose their life. Granted the way the Somalian Pirates are going about providing for themselves is unethical and not right, but I think if you were in their situation you would do what you had to so you could provide for your family.
DeleteI believe the Somalian pirates are going to keep hijacking vessels. They do the hijackings as a way to make money and keep from starving. I agree that the United States needs to stay out of the picture for this problem. If the United States did step in, the troops or resources would have to be used to capture the pirates, which puts more men in prisons, and that costs a lot of money. America is already in debt. Plus, I do not believe this would stop the pirates from trying to hijack ships. I feel there are already many things the United States already needs to handle.
ReplyDeleteThe pirates are still at it what a surprise. This problem that we and other nations have when dealing with the priates is going to be something that i think will probably never go away, unless somalia hits the jack pot lottery and all the poor people are taken care of. there isnt much we can do but provide security for the boats that go near this area with equipment the pirates cannot compete with. if we and others do not do this, it will never end and the pirates will continue to make money for thier family by hijacking our boats and holding our people as hostages.
ReplyDeletethe Somalian pirates are still at it what a surprise.the problem that we and other nations have when dealing with the priates is going to be something that i think will probably never go away,i agree with Tjock07 ya and every new report on the Somali pirates is about them hijacking a ship and raiding it and also are going to keep think that countries should not be so willing to pay the pirates for the ships back, because the pirates know they will not be challenged and will get what they want, money. ya i do agree with some of wat peopler say about this even if There is already too much tension between Iran and the United States. that doesnt hijack vessels for resources and with all the people that are still held whis is about 400 hostages are still in Somalia’s grasp since last year? Something is terribly wrong with this picture.he Somali land has no strong governing infrastructure, ravaged by extreme drought and robbed of its natural resources and left to fend for themselves. They have no normal means of making a living so improvise to survive, that works for them. The laws that govern pirates are antiquated and no country really wants to house, maintain, and absorb the cost of another countries population. they need help..
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