Friday, March 30, 2012

Russians Want Return of the Death Penalty


Interesting article concerning the return of the death penalty in the Russian Gulags. Check it out!
http://rt.com/news/death-penalty-return-russia-787/

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  1. Wow, Russians think you should be killed for sexual offenses with a teenager OVER a murderer.

    I support capital punishment. In fact, I think the punishment should be handled much sooner to help prevent overcrowding of prisons. It's expensive to keep those prisoners fed and housed.

    Move them in/out like a herd of cattle. Yeah, I said it. It sounds harsh, but in the meantime we have men like Charles Manson just denied parole for the 100th time.

    In and out, I'm just sayin'.

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  2. I have difficulties talking about the death penalty because I often dissolve into tears. It reminds me of what happened. It is remarkable how events in life shape us and change our futures. A few years ago, two people that I cared for dearly were killed in a murder for hire case. During that time, there was a lot of media attention regarding this particular case. I repeatedly heard about what happened. I had to start turning the television off to get away from it. Not only did I hear that my friends were killed, but I heard how brutally they were killed. An article outlined the precise details and made the incident come to live intensely. I clearly remember all of the pain, agony, distress, and misery, which I felt upon reading that article. It is something that still disturbs me to this day. It has always been a nightmare. The way in which the attackers murdered my friends was outright malicious. It makes me sick. I tried to do everything I could to pretend it was not real, but every day after--when I woke up, I knew that it was real because my friends were gone and I would never get them back.

    Soon after, I discovered from the victim’s family that this was not the first attempt for the murderers to try to kill my friends. Not all murders are crimes of passion in which people snap. Some murders are planned such as this specific incident. I completely agree with the 64% who said that capital punishment should be used against offenses of murder. The death penalty helps with specific deterrence. Specific deterrence focuses on the individual in question. The aim is to punish the offenders from future criminal acts by instilling an understanding of the consequences. How do I know that specific deterrence works? If an offender is sentenced to death, that offender will NEVER have the opportunity to kill anyone EVER again. General deterrence may or may not work, depending upon the individual. General deterrence focuses on general prevention of crime. The offender receives punishment to deter others from criminal acts. Exploring Criminal Justice affirms that the death penalty does deter and save innocent parties from being killed. I do not see why we would struggle then with asking ourselves if we want to execute responsible parties or let innocent bystanders get killed by monstrous criminals. There is pure evil in this world.

    Criminologist, Anthony Walsh, found that only six percent of victims submit victim impact statements. The reason why this number may be so low is because the victims were like me--they did not want to recall the event. Further, victims may think that it will not make a difference, but it can. Exploring Criminal Justice establishes that these statements have nominal impact with a Judge, but they can have enormous influence over a Jury. Two thirds of the jurors who read victim impact statements voted to impose the death penalty compared to one third of jurors who did not.

    Career criminals know how to work the system. They want no accountability for their crimes so they continually plea bargain for the lightest sentences possible. Due to full dockets, plea bargains are regularly negotiated and accepted. Stricter sentences should be enforced in order to stop habitual offenders. Offenders get away with crimes effortlessly. For example, in DWI cases offenders are not charged severely until their third offense. We are not conveying a message to the offender to refrain from committing this act when they receive a slap on the wrist. Essentially, these offenders are back on the streets repeating the same act, and may not learn until their third offense the consequences of their reckless behavior which should have been dealt with earlier. What about the danger of a person who could have been killed by that drunk driver on the first or second occurrence? Heinous crimes must be stopped. I maintain a firm position that offenders should pay for their heinous crimes and that the death penalty should be imposed in all murder cases worldwide.

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  3. I agree to some extent with the above comments that is why a lot of times we cannot let our emotions be a part in our decisions for causes of others lives according to their malicious acts. As much as we want them to suffer for what they did and acted upon, we are simply not THAT person to make that judgment call. I am against the death penalty because we are not who created man and we are not accountable for taking someone’s life. I know that not all persons are religious and I'm not saying they should be in order to make decisions such as this but when was it up to the citizens/government to make that kind of judgment call? If we are to punish by general deterrence for evil acts then all persons who kill should fall under this category and not just murderers. So does that make mothers of abortion, killing with no intension, or an accidental death caused to someone make them evil and the act performed an evil act? Or not? I strongly agree to disagree with rehabilitating these criminals and allowing them any kind of parole or the chance to even waste a board's time and request for parole only to be denied. They should be locked up and kept away and off the streets until they die but not take their lives. Punishment is a part of taking away their freedom and family and friends and society opportunities but not their life. I do agree with the DWI offenses, because the 2nd time may not be so lucky and why would the offender even be given the chance to make that mistake again only this time killing innocent lives?

    For Russia to lift the moratorium on death penalty will only lighten the burden of housing and government funding but it does not mean that it needs to be enforced in the US, seeing that the US is the 2nd leading country for high numbers of the death penalty. It does not mean that it will reduce the number of criminals still roaming the streets; it does not mean that criminals will no longer commit a crime because of the scare it may cause. How is that determined? Who do we choose to penalize? And if we are to put them on death row in order to keep them away from others and not to kill or harm again, then how do they explain someone like Casey Anthony? How is finding someone like her not guilty promising that she will not harm or kill someone? What if it's proven that it was just a coincident that she was around her next victim? Or they may not even tie her to her next victim but she has knowledge now of have to get away with a crime such as murder?

    So you see, this topic can get very emotional and in order to carry it out the right way, on a governmental point of view, it is very difficult to say yes this needs to be in effect for the best ability of whom? Government, society, the victim's family, or the offender?

    I feel that there should be some other ways of punishment around it, as much as this may hurt us to see someone living on death row due to their malicious acts on persons we loved and will miss, we cannot choose the death penalty as an option upon a solution to all punishments to the crimes listed in this article and others not mentioned.

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    1. I can agree to disagree with others about this. This subject will always be a common cause of conflict because people hold deeply rooted values to core beliefs. I grew up in a Christian home so I wanted to respond to Nyte’s questions regarding when was this decision up to citizens and the government and about abortion.

      From a legal perspective, this occurred with the enactment of the Fifth Amendment. The government was given the right with the expressed powers granted to them to legally take one’s life with due process of the law. Keep in mind that the Constitution limited the power of the government and the due process clause was the implementation of that limitation in this particular amendment. The Supreme Court’s main concern was never if capital punishment could be enforced by the government, but how it should be performed and for what offenses it should be imposed against.

      From a religious perspective, citizens were given this right in Genesis. Genesis 9:6: Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed, for God made man in his own image. The importance of humanity is publicized here. God gave humans dominion over all creations including human life and animals. Thus, this revealed that the only way to restore wholesomeness to the land is by shedding the blood of a person who has defiled the land. God approved execution for murder during His covenant with Noah in beginning times to pronounce that people who commit murder shall not escape punishment. Allowing people to escape punishment devalues this expressed covenant. Diminishment of personal responsibility is occurring as I previously expressed.

      Additionally, God consented to the government’s authority and laws which includes the death penalty (5th amendment) in Romans 13:1-7: Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

      Further commands of the death penalty for acts of murder are specified in Exodus 21:12: Whoever strikes a man so that he dies shall be put to death. This statement speaks of the consequence of murder without question. The imposition of punishment for violations of divine law is what the scripture is spelling out in Exodus. Many scriptures touch on this subject: Romans 6:23, Exodus 21:24, Leviticus 24:15-22, and Numbers 35:29-33 to name a few.

      Death is prescribed as a state sanctioned punishment for offenses against humankind. “Though shall not kill” is not a rejection of the death penalty, it was representative of wanton killings of the innocent for sadistic reasons. Christians should not rejoice over this punishment but we should neither fight against the government’s right in administering justice to execute perpetrators of the most evil crimes. The death penalty is reserved for the most evil of crimes. The core of criminal law is to forbid and sanction crime, this mirrors the majority interests of the death penalty with their demand of punishment for heinous crimes. The death penalty is not something a criminal can escape from, like they can with plea bargains.

      Regarding abortion, many Christians believe in pro-life for abortion while in favor of the death penalty. There is a HUGE difference between the two. The life of a baby being taken from the womb should be protected because the baby is innocent and has committed no crime. Whereas, a convicted perpetuator should not be protected since they have committed a heinous crime. Being pro-life does not mean that you are anti-death in all circumstances. For example, self-defense, war, and the death penalty fall under these rarities. When one person murders another, the just penalty is to end the murderer’s life. This ultimately upholds the value of life for the person who was killed and is a form of punishment towards the murderer which is permitted under both legal and religious contexts.

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  4. I think it’s good that Russia wants to reinstate it’s death penalty. The EU, in their attempts to stomp out the use of death penalty, just goes to show how passive they have become. They talk about how many nations are using the death penalty too liberally; however, it is the unions liberalism that is messing everything up. The EU, by all means, should oversee some issues as it pertains to capital punishment and the nations governing as a whole, but the individual countries should be able to use their discretion in terms of who deserves the death penalty. The EU should just be there to step in if they feel the other country has over stepped their authority.

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  5. Russia wants to reinstate it’s death penalty I'm all for it something that the court can use to help reduce crimes if the public fear the. As a Texas residents I'm for the death penalty as a capital punishment some people have to remorse for this that they do and it is up to us to punishin any means way using capital punishment for sexual offenses against teenagers and murder should high up there if take someone's life them we should take your life as for sexual offence to teenage also should be put to death that's something that a kid will have to live with for the whole life and if your willing to do such a thing them by all mean them u should get wats coming to you as you can see I'm all for the death penalty.

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  6. I have neutral stance on Russia bringing back the death penalty. I do believe that the death penalty is appropriate for certain crimes. However, I do believe that sometimes we jump to conclusion. Just on the basis that we want to see, somebody punished. I do realize that there many different viewpoints on the death penalty. However, in my opinion it does not increase or decrease the rate of crime in the United States or Russia before the United States or any country send someone to death row. We have to consider if it is the right moral thing to do. We say send him the chair, but we have to ask ourselves. Would we have the same though if we were the ones on death row. In addition, it is cheaper to have an inmate sent to prison for the rest of their life than send them to death row.

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  7. I am very pro- death penalty, I think there are some people in this world who cannot be rehabilitated and continue their manipulation of the system in prison. This article shows the percentages of death penalty cases but doesn’t show if its effective in the countries that offer it compared to those countries that do not allow it. I agree with Leanne to some extent, people who continually get denied parole, and those who have committed heinous crimes do not deserve to remain on earth. I think prisoners should be limited to a certain amount of appeals to ensure they received a fair trial and to make sure the system didn’t fail and convict an innocent person. I do find it a little strange that sexual offenders are sentenced to death more than murderers in Russia, maybe the US should implement this penalty for sexual offenders and maybe the offender numbers would decrease?!

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    1. I agree with Bailey and I can see both sides of the debate about the death penalty. There are so many on death row or even life that do not deserve to be breathing. There are some criminals and crimes committed that are just so evil, there isn't any fixing them. I agree that there should be a certain amount of appeals and so forth but after it is said and done and that person is 100% guilty, they should be executed in a timely manor. I am a strong believer that sexual crimes against the elderly and children should have harsher punishments, some even death. A sexual crime against a child does life long damage. I can sympathize with the families of those that are on death row or have been executed since they are no longer with their loved one but those families have to understand their loved one is the reason why another family is without their mother, father, sister, etc. I am very passionate about the death penalty but I am not trying to offend anyone either. I completely agree there are just some people that shouldn’t be allowed to live due to their crimes they have committed.

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  8. While I agree with the death penality in some cases the article seemed to me like they wanted it back just so that they could get rid of the inmates in which have commited these crimes... I think every one should have a chance to change but i also know that there are those such as child molesters who find in some cases that they cant be helped... I think that it should be reimplamented for those specific cases such as murder and sexual assults..but this is just my opinion. while I understand its the governmetns final decision I also thing that the citizens should have a say in it as well.

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  9. This story once again brings up all the questions and controversies concerning capital punishment and should there even be a death penalty. From studying this, we all know that capital punishment is really not a very good deterent against murder since most murderers are first-time killers, and the murders are usually crimes of passion or rage, drug and alcohol related, or due to psychological disorders. They are usually unplanned and spontaneous, so the killer never really considers punishment or even getting caught. If they do think of being caught, do they really think that spending many years in prison is so much better than execution that they are willing to kill anyway? I do, however, understand the pro-death crowd when they say, "the punishment fits the crime." I totally agree, but isn't it a more fitting punishment to have an offender rot for a long time in prison? The murderers will still be off the streets, and the argument about executing an innocent person or the discrimination of the death penalty will be moot, not to mention the high cost of seemingly endless appeals. Majorities here and in Russia support the death penalty, but, in my opinion, most people don't really think through the question thoroughly, and the idea of capital punishment just makes them feel safer and that through execution, justice is served. These are all ideas the Russions must consider before lifting their moratorium on the death penalty. The report states that many in Russia support death for other offenses besides just murder. I'm not sure that would or should ever fly. Maybe a better idea is to take the European Union's position against the death penalty in favor of human dignity, rehabilitation, and re-socialization.

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  10. I believe that Russia should reinstate the death penalty only for certain crimes. Yet to pick and choose which crimes are worthy of the death penalty, is going to be the challenge. The death penalty has always been a sensitive subject, since many individuals believe that no human has the right to pick and choose who lives or dies. However Russia is known to have a high crime rate and is known to have issues with criminal organizations. I do believe that if the government does not reinstate the death penalty, crime and criminal organizations would run even more ramped in the country. Even though I believe that the death penalty would benefit this country, I don’t believe it would never be put in place since the individuals that the government has protected would have to fear the death penalty. Also the Russian government is known to be corrupt, which means that the government itself would have the power to choose which citizen gets to live or die from their crimes and I do believe that the death penalty would be abused, as a control mechanism by the higher class to control the lower class.

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  11. I’m not against the views of the average Russian inhabitant. Sexual offenders apparently are the scum of the earth to the Russians and would rather have them executed versus rehabilitation. I wonder how many people are executed for crimes they committed but under the table considering how corrupted the government is. Funny that China is mentioned in the article, they have the lowest crime rate in the world – but only because they executed the most people than any other country in the world. Sure there is plenty out there who deserve it, but some innocent people fall through the cracks. I’m all for it until I find out about those who were proven guilty, but only after the fact that they were executed. You can’t bring a human life back, making some death penalties the biggest error a human being can make.

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  12. I, personally, am all for the death penalty. I agree that it is a very sensitive issue all around the globe. I was not aware that Russia had stopped performing legal executions and I find myself wondering if, perhaps, there weren't still executions "in the dark". I realize that I am probably looking at it from a different perspective in which Russians are all just natural-born killers but I am a child of the Cold War so when I hear of Russia, I immediately envision violence. I believe that it's only fitting they impose the death penalty on sex offenders and murders. Although classified as inhumane, I truly wish they could come up with a way to give the offender a taste of his own medicine. Violent offenders, especially with the lethal injection, just get to go to sleep. Did their victims get the same opportunity? I think the punishment should fit the crime. I am very old-school and an eye for for an eye. I also believe that they should not be housed on death row forever. If they impose the death penalty, then it should be swift.

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  13. I was surprised that the US is ranked #5 in the world for executions, I was thinking maybe 3? Anyways, I would agree with having ALL sex offenders executed. I think a sex offender can’t ever be rehabilitated. I am a born and raised Texan, so I strongly believe and support the death penalty, making me apart of the ONLY 60% Americans in favor of the death penalty; I also think that they should not take forever to execute them. Making it a fast process will avoid overcrowding at the prisons.
    What bothers me is that murder and drug trafficking are only 10% in difference. Why? I am not an advocate for any drug cartel/drug dealer but I don’t understand why have a drug dealer killed? I work for a federal public defender and 90-95% of the cases I get are drug related. At one point I had 22 open drug trafficking cases and 1 sex offender case. Well the drug dealer received a sentence of 45 years, while the sex offender only got 15. I don’t see it. Murders should be at the 72% and not at only 64%. Just saying.

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      “I am a born and raised Texan, so I strongly believe and support the death penalty, making me apart of the ONLY 60% Americans in favor of the death penalty.” That’s one of the silliest statements you could ever make. Seriously, Barbie, no offense, but do all of Texas a huge favor, and please don’t say you are pro death penalty because you are a Texan. I was born and raised in Texas. I am a Texan. I am not pro death penalty. Neither is my father, a Texan. Or my fiancĂ©, guess what? Texan! Just because Texas presently has the death penalty does not mean that it is a staple of the Texan tradition. At least not one I feel we should keep. Texas used to be a slave state, that doesn’t make being Texan as synonymous with being pro slavery. I am a proud Texan, and apparently you are too, I wouldn’t question that. I just think you are combining two ideas that really don’t need to be associated together. When I go overseas and I tell people “I’m a Texan!” I really don’t want them thinking about the death penalty. I’d rather them ask me about cowboy boots and if we all ride horses and stuff. Really, I mean no offense at all.

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  14. I will go out on a limb here and state that I am part of the small percentage that does not fully agree with the death penalty. I just cannot fathom justice being served by killing off another human life; whether they are guilty or innocent. Say what you want, I just feel that each individual will receive proper justice from their maker; whomever that may be (if any) to the criminal. Not all families who have loved ones are avid supporters of the death penalty. I have read a few cases where the families actually do not want the death penalty imposed for vengeance of their loved ones. Now, do I have an alternate solution? No, I do not. This issue just does not sit well with me. One thing that surprised me is seeing China at the top of the list! I was not expecting to see China place higher than the United States.

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  15. The death penalty is always a touchy subject of conversation. I am neither for or nor against it. In certain situations I am for it, and in other circumstances I am against it. Here is a big question I have with the death penalty though, We are humans, we all make mistakes, some bigger than others, but why do WE get to decide whether a person dies or lives? That is a tough question. But I will also ask this, Do I think Timothy McVeigh deserved to be executed? HELL YES I DO...Like I said, I am for a few instances in which I believe the death penalty is ok, and there are other times when I do not think it is ok. What makes murdering someone worse than a 40 year old man raping a child? I like what the article says about including molestation of children into a crime punishable by way of death. The death penalty will cut the population down in prisons. I do agree with that. What are the benefits for taxpayers on keeping the prisoner alive VS sentencing the prisoner to die, financially speaking? Is it cheaper to kill them or house them? If it is a cheaper, is that a good enough reason for us to include such crimes to be punishable by death. I really do not know how I would answer that question. Just something to think on. Not every criminal is a monster, people do make mistakes, and some are worth forgiving. But only God can judge in my opinion.

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  16. This article to me begs the question how far should you take capital punishment? According to this article 62% of the residents of Russia want the moratorium on the death penalty lifted. They not only wanted it lifted, but they suggested that the death penalty should be used for sexual offenses against teenagers, murder, terrorism, drug trafficking and treason. Granted a victim of these crimes sometimes end up losing their life, and the perpetrator if caught will receive some type of punishment. Family members of these victims look for some type of justice to occur because they lost someone who was a victim to these types of crimes or the victim is traumatized by the crime for a significant amount of their life. The purpose of capital punishment is to lawfully put someone to death as punishment. The fact that the residents of Russia wants to apply capital punishment to these crimes is understandable but like everyone else says I don’t think it should be allowed just to free up the prison.

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  17. I was actually surprised to find out that China had the highest rate of death penalty in 2011. Also, I was even more surprised to find out that the United States was the Fifth highest. I actually believed that the United States would have ranked second or third. I believe the death penalty is always a hard topic to discuss. I believe that the death penalty can be useful. I often feel people who will kill again need to be put on death row. For example, there are several serial killers who would kill again if they were not in prison, because many kill for “fun”. Although, most murderers are first time killers that do it without even doing prior thinking, therefore I do not think capital punishments should be used for every murder. If someone killed my brother, I personally would rather see them spend life in super max than them die by capital punishment. I feel solitary confinement or a risky life in prison is a worse punishment, but capital punishment can also give satisfaction to the victims.

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  18. It is quite shocking that 62 percent of Russians want to lift the moratorium on the death penalty. It also says that the Russians did a poll and respondents suggested using capital punishment for sexual offenses against teenagers (72%), murder (64%), terrorism (54%) , drug trafficking (28%) and treason (12%). I understand why they would want the death penalty lifted especially from a victims family, but what makes us be able to take someones life? For some situations I believe in the death penalty but not all. Just what Crystal said, for murders they are first time killers and they kill without even thinking about it. So in my opinion in some situations I would use the death penalty but not to this extent.

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  19. I don’t believe that it would be a good decision for Russia to lift its moratorium on the death penalty. If an individual is charged and convicted with the death penalty, I think that more than likely he will receive the punishment. The Russian government is still corrupt and the death penalty can be exploited and used to punish any criminal of their choice if they wanted to. And this because the process of indicting and convicting a criminal with the death penalty will probably have flaws since the criminal justice system in Russia is not as organized as it should be.

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  20. it would not be good for the Russian Government ,euro is in debit crisses right as well and have a death pently would coast money they dont have and like cesar said that there gov is not the most honst and trustworly they could use this get pepole out if there way that was hurting there power in goverment.

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  21. i am kinda for the death penalty. because locking them up and throwing away the key is as crewel and if we did not have so many appeals then it would be cheaper. if someone is allowed six, i think that is enough to try your case and find enough reason to put it off. yes Russian government is not the best by any means but nether is ours, and we still use that as a way to take care of inmates. and i am not saying just kill everyone just some of the more worst if the worst people who is to dangerous to have just roman around or even in prison.

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  22. I do not believe in the death penalty when it comes to specific things. I feel that people are executed and by the time they are gone they are found to be innocent. I feel like we should have a method that we can do to the criminals what they did to victims. I feel like that we would have less crime with some form of method like this. I do not believe that there is an insane person. I bet if you acted the crime against the criminal I bet they will become very sane. The only ones that I feel like deserves the death penalty is murderers and child molesters (who gets off the lightest)

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